V for Vendetta

[tempestuously]

What can I say? I know nothing about the graphic novel, although it's one of Tom's favorites. This movie physically injured me. Not that this is a bad thing. It hit extremely close to home, and it's whole ambiguous take on a terrorist was unsettling. Perhaps similar to how people originally felt when Psycho first came out and made you sympathize with Norman. The acting was sweet. The action didn't lord over the movie like the Matrix boys' past two films. I loved the tension between the investigator and V; it kept making me think of Death Note. I'm odd like that. It is a very good movie. That said, I doubt I'd be able to watch it too often, being that it scares the shit out of me. I'm just glad to see a movie come out that's less about wowing people with effects and more about making them think. Even if the parallels to the Bush administration were insanely heavy-handed at times.

Comments

[zanzou-chan.livejournal.com]

re: bush refs

Remember they probably got most of this shit from the comics... meaning that it's not that it's about BUSH, it's just that Bush is just a very good example of corrupt right-wing bureaucracy. (The comics were first written in the 80s)

[fluffymaru.livejournal.com]

Yeah, but (without seeing the movie) it doesn't mean that the film makers didn't lay on some stuff a little strong. Remember, Alan Moore refused to have his name associated with the film.

From what I hear, it's a really good movie, but it ISN'T the graphic novel (kind of like Constantine...good on it's own, but it might as well have been an original work).

[zanzou-chan.livejournal.com]

See, but even Bush isn't original (ie, McCarthy era listening in on its citizens, 1984 tv control & propaganda) From wiki: An extreme right-wing fascist single-party state has arisen, called Norsefire, that maintains control of the country through food shortages (arising during the nuclear winter), government-controlled media, secret police, a planned economy, and concentration camps for racial and sexual minorities. There is an emphasis on technology, especially closed-circuit television monitoring in the mode of George Orwell's 1984.

So I don't really get the feeling they were making this shit up out of nowhere.

Also: it being applicable to Bush just makes it more relevant than ever. I get the feeling the big message of this movie is: Ignore your civil liberties and they'll go away. Which is very true, and totally happening right now. :/

While I didn't know that Alan Moore wouldn't be associated with the movie, that doesn't make the movie any less good. It does convey an important message, and it does it well... and really, it's applicable to a number of corrupt governments over the ages, not just Bush. Really, this is much more referencing Kim Jong-Il's sort of country, which the US is currently just approaching.

[fluffymaru.livejournal.com]

Well, like I said, I haven't seen it, so I can't agree or disagree. I was just saying that stating that the book was written in the early Eighties isn't a good enough argument for it NOT being somewhat about Bush, since the FILM was made now. My point was that the film makers can add their own spin (whatever that spin may be), and in fact did, since I've already been told by several of my friends that it wasn't horribly true to the book

I don't think one way or another (especially, saying it again, since I haven't seen the movie), and knowing the dumbass masses, they would see the "Bush" in there even if it isn't.

And I never said that the movie wasn't good (regarding the Alan Moore thing). In fact, I believe I said that I heard it was good in my reply. I was just, once again, pointing out that the movie and GN are DIFFERENT, and thus are not subject to the whole "the book is this so the movie must be like this" thing.

[zanzou-chan.livejournal.com]

I just meant that even if it's not like just like/really like the book, the scenario and the world they're living in seems pretty similar to the comic original. Which is why I think it applies. :3

*muse* I think the Bushiest thing that happened was the purposeful fear-mongering that they "govt" did in the movie-- but again, you should just see it. Personally, I think that it just happens to be a movie that's incredibly applicable to modern day life (especially to those in America), and that (plus the whole comic movie = $$$)'s what got the movie made around now, not so much a political statement... because come on. It's WB. They're not progressive at all. XD;

(My sister actually made the comment that I really agreed with, which is that the fact that the movie is set in Europe, and that they overthrow the government THERE, makes it a lot safer for aiming it at a US market.. I really think that if this movie was supposed to have been set in the US, it wouldn't have happened.)

[nayami.livejournal.com]

Since we are debating on my journal, I don't mind cutting in. XD I am aware the comic was originally set during Margaret Thatcher's era. I'm also aware the setting was a lot less close to home, as in there was a detachment. However, I do believe the Matrix boys used elements from today's world and integrated them into the movie, such as the mentioning of Iraq, Avian Flu, fear-mongering. I don't doubt the graphic novel was as unsettling. I also want to reinterate that I loved the movie. This doesn't mean that it shouldn't be allowed to scare me because of the far-reaching and encompassing nature of the parable. I think that's what makes it such a good story. As far as the Bush thing, British critics have claimed this was an American movie that was set in England because the Americans were too afraid to use their own country.

[fluffymaru.livejournal.com]

Anything tht makes you think of Death Note is A-Okay in my book! We'll probably see it this weekend since I went clubbing tonight...