So Clamp and Sunrise walk into a bar

[tempestuously]

I dislike how fans seem to believe that were Geass actually written by Clamp, it would be a better series. Not that it doesn't rock as it is. But they're all like "Of course this isn't written by Clamp. Clamp would have never done [spoiler for 22]." And that Clamp > Sunrise. God help me, I love Sunrise. I love Clamp too, but I am not giving full credit to the group that screwed me not once but twice. Clamp are goddesses yes, but they are not the end-be-all of story-telling. They make their mistakes too. So you want to be loyal fangirls? Have at it. But get off Sunrise's back and take your head out of Clamp's ass. Geass belongs to Sunrise. Either you accept it and move along or you kindly take your bitching ass to another series.

I have R x J icons now. They make me happy because they are very pretty.

I dislike what I've been hearing about Spiderman 3 from reputable sources. I was so looking forward to seeing Hobgoblin, Venom and more importantly Harry again. I shall now mourn before work.

I also think I forgot to water my flowers because some aren't looking too good. I'll have to maintain a better schedule. Rains confuse me.

ETA: I'm currently thinking about how to change up my layout so I can switch to the darker "You Will Be the Death of Me" scenario for Suzaku and Lelouch. I still want to figure out a way to fit Euphie in there.

Comments

[crowphoenix.livejournal.com]

Nayami, if you're going for Harry, you've got a chance of liking it. It is an enjoyable flik: It's just a bad one. The three tolorable characters are Harry, Marko Flynn, and Eddie Brock. Sandman (MarKo) is the best done of the bunch, and you can tell the director actually wanted to do him. Harry too, though there is a bit at the end at it Deus Ex MAchina or rather why the fuck did this not happen earlier.

To actually warn you, ok, the movie opens and closes with Mary Jane singing. You must know this or the pain of these scenes, of enduring the songs will drive you bat shit crazy.

^_^ I give it two broken computers out of ten, but if you cut the last 45 minutes to an hour out, I'd give it a six. Sorry, for the spoiler, but seriously, one needs to be prepared for that shit.

[equivalent-t.livejournal.com]

Hahaha, seriously, they say so? The only CLAMP work that clicked my awesomeness meter as a STORY is xxxHolic. They're good, and in a lot of ways CLAMP are goddesses, but master storytellers...not really, imo. They rely too much on, hmm, literary theatrics? Not that CG doesn't employ literary theatrics, but they're not as...exaggerated? CLAMP is like seeing Kinoko Nasu in bicurious manga form. Taniguchi has his faults---he tend to pace things REALLY weird, among other things---but I don't think he's automatically inferior as a storyteller.

I like CLAMP and Sunrise both, but I walk into their productions expecting different things. ALTHOUGH. Storytelling quality aside, what makes those fangirls think CLAMP would pull 22 off differently? The CLAMP I know revels in making its audience suffer for developing attachment to characters and delivering arbitrary fates. CLAMP's world is a cruel world (hello, Clover!), unless we're talking about Chobits, so what gives? And [spoiler]'s fate is not so different from Kotori, really?

[nayami.livejournal.com]

I haven't been able to give my full and lasting to Clamp ever since they screwed me for X and then Legal Drug. I am bitter. I think Clamp has a true talent with characterizations of a certain few and fucking with your head by making the thing you least expect to happen happen. That's probably what you're referring to as literary theatrics. I just get irritated when people act like they can do no wrong. The newest fans brought in by Tsubasa and XXXholic often carry this belief because they have no been there to see Clamp truly dangle its readers.

I think the main difference they were talking about is having the geass massacre incident be on purpose and not an accident, which I wish people would realize would be a travesty to Lelouch's characters. He's cold and calculating yes and when he uses Euphie's death to further his goals, it's after he has no other option and she's already dead. Even his original plan of smearing her name (which I still believe was driven by his fear of losing and hot-blooded temper tantrum) pails in comparison to a whole-scale massacre, not to mention annihilation of Euphie's self. It disgusts me to hear people say they would have rather had the incident be on purpose. And making it on purpose would be a Clamp thing to do but there's a chance Clamp might have also employed some deep and almost impossible to decipher rationality behind the choice. AKA Fuuma in X. Sometimes I don't think the new breed of Clamp fans understand Clamp at all, aside from the fandom staples.

[equivalent-t.livejournal.com]

Well, that, and they tend to exaggerate every damn emotion related to the unexpected event...plus...see also Clover and X...a lot of their reactions aren't very natural. It's much better in Tsubasa and esp xxxHolic, but the first still has too many of those events we're supposed to be shocked with. And after reading CLAMP for so many years, it's hard to be shocked, you know? XD And if the interview is correct, they also dangled Clover. And I don't think Clamp School Detectives was ever given a proper ending? Sure it's just a series of short, but I'd like to see some closure in my stories, dammit.

Re Fuuma : What, you mean Kamui's decision to tell Fuuma about being a Dragon of Heaven isn't the worst-timed accident ever? CLAMP does use arbitrary accidents. Sure, Fuuma has a rationality. Kamui's decision to tell Fuuma right there and then was completely innocent. And really, have they forgotten the 'Power will isolate you' clause? It's hardly unforeshadowed.

The 'Lelouch should've been more cold-blooded' thing. Bleh. I hate that argument, and it reinforces my belief that a good part of his fanbase are his fans because of their addiction to badassery, and don't actually get Lelouch at all. (Which is a total shame, because Lelouch's character is arguably the best thing in CG) They want him to be more badass, because they're like Diethard, there : They follow this based on his killing of Clovis. And they want him to be more outwardly angstier, take darker options, be more....Subaru-ish lol. I can see him killing Euphie, I don't think he would, but I can see it---but not the massacre part. Lulu is NOT OKAY with massacres and it's amazing how many people don't get this. The point isn't him paying any price. The point is him knowing he has to pay any price but refuses to pay it, thinking he can weasel his way around war unless absolutely necessary. Intellectually, that makes him MORE badass, not that I care about badassery. Bah.

(OOC aside, I actually think a purposeful 22 would actually be...very shallow? He'd be a standard machiavellian character then, and no amount of angsting about it would change the fact since every damn machiavellian character except Raito does it. Sometimes I wonder if people just want the things they could predict from beginning to end, if brain comfort is preferable to good plotting?)