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tempestuously ([personal profile] tempestuously) wrote2007-05-17 10:49 am

Some of us sail through our troubles and some have to live with the scars

I have such jealousy toward the people who've just stumbled onto X through Tsubasa or some other means. They're all so cheery and bright-eyed and completely ignorant of the fandom's dark history. When I mention the ship wars, the dragon wars and the theory wars, they blink at me like dumbfounded fawns. Not to say I never enjoyed myself in the fandom. Many of the discussions, however vicious, were well-thought out and I can't say how often I would rush home from school/high school to read them or jump blogs. I made many friends through the fandom as while; some who have moved on as time went by. But as X is a series twisted in battle and the nuances between love and hate so is the fandom. I almost want the newer fans to understand and respect that.

That said, I read a Geass fic last night, hoping it would be something worth archiving. It had a good premise and a very powerful start. Some parts of it were quite fitting as well. But pacing is a very essential part of fiction, and this one regrettably made a poor choice on that front. Not only that, characterization was later sacrificed for sake of the plot in a way that made me lose any faith in the piece whatsoever. In the end, I was just left feeling aggravated and disappointed. I should be writing this under the fic's comments and not here, but I'm not sure that would go over so well, and I just want to capture my total disillusionment.

I also read the worst spoilers I could ever find for Godchild. I don't know why I'm so obsessed with buying my Viz releases when I can never wait for them to finish the story. Now I want scanlations SO bad.

[identity profile] shoiryu.livejournal.com 2007-05-17 02:41 pm (UTC)(link)
But as X is a series twisted in battle and the nuances between love and hate so is the fandom. I almost want the newer fans to understand and respect that.

I've had that thought a time or two before, myself. I saw some secret on fandomsecrets the other day that was like, Everyone said this fandom was mean! But it's so ~*~*~*~*NICE~*~*~*~. I'm like, golly you weren't here for the flamewar over how to spell "onmyoujitsu" or the neverending Subaru/Seishirou versus Subaru/Kamui wars. *L* We were all such BITCHES back then.

[identity profile] nayami.livejournal.com 2007-05-17 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh the S/Ser and S/Kers, how I don't miss the days when they were eternally at each others throats. Heaven help you if you saw the merits in both. At least X fandom prepared me well in advance for any other volatile fandom I might even enter. I'm hardly phased now.

[identity profile] equivalent-t.livejournal.com 2007-05-17 02:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh. I feel for you. I talked to a girl yesterday who got into CLAMP through xxxHolic and, let alone fandom, didn't even know CLAMP does BL, massacres, hands-through-chests and underage molesting. I can only imagine what a fandom history version of that is like.

What's your preferences on fic reviews, anyway? You're a writer, iirc. What do you like to give/take? (I suppose I treat fics like essays when it comes to commenting. It only works when there's a point of interest, somehow I can't come up with 'good characterization/plot/prose etc' lines. I like getting everything except 'omg gud rite m4r', though.

Oh, and this is not for a fic, but I must say that "Tl;dr, but thanks anyway!" is also REALLY something.)

[identity profile] nayami.livejournal.com 2007-05-17 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Whenever people say they don't know Clamp does BL, I tend to doubt their sanity or perceptive abilities. Clamp hardly makes their preferences a secret in anything they write. As for those others, I'd like to know which Clamp work she DID read. Because even Card Captor Sakura has its moments. Don't even get me started on Chobits.

I don't write fanfiction, mostly original, so I usually ask for criticism or people to tell me what they especially enjoyed so I could try to emphasize it more. When responding to fiction, I also tend to essay because if I like a fic enough to comment, I definitely want to put some work into telling the writer what made it work for me. That reminds me that I still need to review your Euphie/Lulu piece. I wanted to make sure I had enough time for that. The whole "tl;dr" thing has annoyed me since the first time I saw it. What a waste of a comment. It's about as bad as the "first comment" thing.

[identity profile] equivalent-t.livejournal.com 2007-05-18 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
She did CCS. I assume she was really young back then, since it really, really takes a certain obtuseness of mind not to notice Touya/Yukito. And that girl who was in love with her teacher. I think she's started reading Tsubasa and Rg Veda, but those don't really hit their BL stride until Komokuten/Ashura-ou and the later KuroFye moments, which were less in-your-face than the rest of 'em. Doesn't know X or TB exists yet, heh. Though since she says Lulu looks familiar when he most definitely isn't shown anywhere yet and didn't recognize the art style, maybe she's just not good at visual cues.

Eep. I just assumed that most writers in a fandom would end up doing fanfic in some form or the other. XD;; I suppose I should ask for that more, too. Maybe it's Scientific Training at fault, but I tend to zero in on the misses more than the hits, and the former is also needed. I wrote a long ranty post on tl;dr and how I made that thing for people to READ, dammit, not to feel entitled to appreciation, but didn't post because it felt wanky. :p Being a nice person is such a pain.

[identity profile] uminomamori.livejournal.com 2007-05-17 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I couldn't resist picking up the 2nd X artbook at Acen. The number of bondage-y Kamui pics makes me giggle:)

[identity profile] nayami.livejournal.com 2007-05-17 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Bondage Kamui makes me forget I want to strangle his whiny ass half the time. Clamp characters always look best when tied up or bleeding. I blame them for my whole blood fetish in fiction. ^^;;