tempestuously | A question of the heart

My house has absolutely no circulation so my cold has not improved. It turned into a head cold midday, but thankfully with about 10 pills that has since gone down. Most of the day, that wasn't spent lying in bed, was spent affixing my Geass cells to my wall so that now a good sixth of it is Geass. I also finally got around to scanning the parts of "Knight" that I really wanted to share. There's a few others I'm debating on. I went to work long enough to pick up some contacts so I can make calls tomorrow or whenever. I still have to work tomorrow, but my coworker said she'll hang with me so that should be fun. If I'm not still dead-sick.

I'm still fairly depressed but doing a better job of repressing it, I think. Though I did nearly lose it around a few of my older coworkers today. I'll try not to bitch about this anymore in this journal.

Instead I'll just laugh at the NewType Romance Special of Rivalz and Lelouch in the shower after the kitty cosplay episode. Lelouch is such an oblivious freak half the time, and Rivalz is ever so gay.

This reminds me. I was going through my official art the other day and came to a stunning conclusion. For a canon pairing, even if only for a handful of episodes, Suzaku and Euphie never got ONE official art together. That depresses me. I mean, even Kallen got an official art with Suzaku. I know Lelouch is the pimp, and he gets all the girls and Suzaku to boot, but just one sign of Suzaku's questionable heterosexuality would be nice. I think Graham is right. Suzaku really is the gay one. Sad really since Lelouch is obviously more attached to him than Suzaku is to Lelouch. I think it's really a case of fake!Suzaku and occasionally true!Suzaku loving everyone equally so no one person is more important than the other. To be fair, true!Suzaku is more selfish than fake!Suzaku. Whereas Lelouch, infinitely the more selfish one than either Suzaku persona, is only willing to devote his concern/heart/whatever to certain people. He'll go out of his way for others, yes, but he will pull out all the stops when it comes to his special people. Oh Lelouch, why do you even pretend that you can give all that up?

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Now that it's over, I can't help but feeling that SuzaEuphie as a pairing was there for, you know, the sake of being there, especially considering how the Japanese loves their Knight/Princess stories. (And then they also go the other market of Japanese pop culture and have brother/sister/prince/princess hilarity. Oh, Code Geass. You and your mainstreamness.) Its canon development is imo quite less smooth than LuluEuphie, despite how the latter got fewer scenes---heck, we see them actually enjoying each other's presence and not admiring it exactly once, and series doesn't spare them that much time to be together, even.

Although I'm one of those people who prefers the LuluEuphie side of that arrangement, I also like SuzaEuphie and it bothers me that they're...more like a symbol for Knight/Princess or one more Gundam reference Taniguchi wanted to chop to pieces. Speaking of structure alone, LuluEuphie is much more plot device than S/E, but somehow it managed to feel more...emotional? That doesn't sit right with me. :/

Although, that scan you posted from Knight is seriously questioning which route the manga went, if the manga #23 really happened that way.

Oh I understand why SuzaEuphie was there, even though I still like it, and I understand it was also there for mostly the sole purpose of breaking Suzaku and setting up a means for Suzaku and Lelouch's relationship to be all but irreconcilable. But I still wouldn't mind one official art. After all, the Gundam peoples later decided they hated AsuCaga, and they still provided arts of them.

I will admit that there is something more emotionally real about the LuluEuphie relationship. Possibly this is the way they can affect each other. She's the only person we've seen who can quell his vengeance lust and make him want to pretend to be Lelouch vi Britannia again. Even if it can't last. And as for her, she's willing to throw away her title so he and his sister can be happy and live in peace. So they can possibly all live together again. The way they are willing to give up almost everything for each other creates a bond that surpasses even the glancing scenes we see of them together. In just four episodes, we see a relationship that rivals any of the other "pairings" IMO. I actually commend the series for its ability to do that, even if it meant the SuzaEuphie side felt a touch more forced/artificial.

But to be fair, I don't think Suzaku had decided on his depth of love for Euphie yet and just wanted someone to believe in and be his light. Euphie was crushing but had some of Suzaku's quest for someone to be with her on her path to her goal as well. I think the reason that one doesn't seem as sincere is because it hadn't reached that point yet; it was never given the chance with the circumstances. This doesn't make it any less important a relationship in the series because of its impact, but it saddens me it's never appreciated by its own artists.

What do you mean? Because of the scene with Euphie in the school uniform? Other than that, things are mostly the same. I wasn't sure if that story was supposed to reflect the path of the manga or not.

Not arguing with you. I also would like more official art, Sunrise. -_-; I wasn't trying to say it's not canon, because that'd be silly, but complaining that it got so little....dedication in canon itself. Blargh. My interpretation is basically the same as yours : in 20, Euphie and Suzaku OK'd the other side to start 'something more' with each other if they wanted to, but they haven't actually figured that out yet what that 'something' is going to be. Probably thought they'd have all the time in the world. And the nod the script gave it in 23...is kinda weak, actually. All the emotional strength in that scene went to L/E (on rewatch, the first time has S/E strength enough). I like S/E, too, and am unhappy about that...they should've developed it enough to feel what she means to him intuitively without going through analyses on Suzaku's Reason To Live and metafeed in the OP. Romance or no. Doesn't have to be a pairing, even.

Or maybe it's because they got OP treatment and nobody else got that. Because that means True Love for fen, obviously.

That, and I don't believe that when Euphie died in the anime, Lelouch was the one with her to the last moment. And in that story, he didn't exactly dehydrate himself with tears which would be hard to miss even if Euphie hallucinated herself into seeing Suzaku as him. The fact that Lloyd and Cecile are with them decided it as manga-verse....absolutely no reason Lelouch would deliver her to them in anime, whereas he knows them as medical staff in manga. When you're doing an officially printed serious story that is partly set in a canon timeline you already know, you don't disturb canon unless you absolutely have to, right?

Oh I didn't think you were arguing it as not canon; I was just trying to rationalize, with myself even, what the relationship actually entailed. I admit the OP thing was overblown with what attention they got in the series, but it was probably to show Suzaku's ideals contrasted with Lelouch's.

Cecile and Lloyd were with Suzaku when Euphie died. They were standing right behind him for a portion of time and could very well have walked out. I actually checked this because I wasn't sure myself. I don't think we could see Suzaku's face well enough in the doujinshi to be sure whether or not he was crying, but as it was a nod to the original story, I'm assuming we are supposed to view it as the same. Since it is heavily focused on LuluEuphie, I think the artist is asking for a benefit of a doubt when it comes to Euphie hallucinating or maybe she's just simply recalling. I think it would be fair to insert both Suzaku's complete and utter emotional breakdown and Euphie's nostalgia into the same canonical timeline if need be. I definitely believe the person with Euphie is supposed to be Suzaku; the artist just didn't go all out with the knight uniform. Hence, why she has the panel of Zero!Lelouch on the page next to it, a reference to his later sad talk of sadness with C.C.

That OP thing was either a homage or a trap to lead us into seeing things that weren't there. If the latter, it worked, too.

..............the thing about this is, I actually saw Cecile as Lulu. On three readings. XD So this one is to you, again. While I'm confident in my analytical skills when it comes to these things, obviously my observational ones need a boost. As for that...she's recalling, I think? Even when I thought it was Lulu there, it was still highly likely to be recalling. (I also didn't look at page numbers and got the dramatization of it wrong in my head, hah)

Story sort of went above and beyond 'centric' to downright shippy, though.

If want a trap OP, try Terra e. That thing is full of lies horrible lies. XD

... Yeah I can kind of see how the two look similar with this artist. ^^;; I admit the story was shippy. Heh. Not that I'm complaining.

Terra e was in my watchlist at the start of the season---I mean, SF that doesn't have robots? You have a deal. And I like retro. But it got pushed out somewhere in the middle of it all. >_>

Not complaining either. *heart*

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